Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World by Mark L. Clifford

And even if people are listening to this a bit later, it’s pretty unlikely that they’re getting out of jail any time soon. MARK CLIFFORD: Right now, we have seven people in jail.

And I was on the board of Next Digital - the company that published the pro-democracy newspaper known as Apple Daily - which was shut down by the government in an extraordinary turn of events. I ran a pan-Asian business association of CEOs. I was the editor-in-chief of both English-language newspapers there. So, you speak from authority - in the sense that you lived in Hong Kong for close to 30 years. And I think people should know about that.ĬHARLES MIZRAHI: Yeah. MARK CLIFFORD: Well, my experience over the last couple of years - being on the sharp end of the Chinese stick as it punished Hong Kong and the company that I was involved with - has been pretty chilling, too. Mark, I want to tell you: This book is a bit chilling - to say the least. It’s a real pleasure to talk to you.ĬHARLES MIZRAHI: Mark’s latest book is Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World: What China’s Crackdown Reveals About Its Plans to End Freedom Everywhere. A resident of Hong Kong for close to 30 years, Mark gives us a gripping history of China’s deteriorating relationship with Hong Kong and its implications for the rest of the world.ĬHARLES MIZRAHI: I recently sat down with Mark, and we talked about how a city once famed for protests so peaceful that toddlers joined grandparents at rallies became a place where police have fired tear gas, rubber bullets and even live ammunition at their neighbors.ĬHARLES MIZRAHI: Mark, thanks for coming on the show. His latest book, Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World: What China’s Crackdown Reveals About Its Plans to End Freedom Everywhere, is causing big waves around the world. Mark is president of the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong. And we have to try to starve the beast - as it were - of the money, ideas, technology and even the markets that it needs to keep growing.ĬHARLES MIZRAHI: My guest today is Mark Clifford. We’ve got to try to expose it for what it is.

China is capable of this kind of totalitarian behavior, and we’ve got to confront it. MARK CLIFFORD: It wasn’t so long ago that Mao killed somewhere around 50 million people through starvation in political campaigns.

Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World by Mark L. Clifford